So I was thrilled to get my first job at Virginia Tech when I Came down here in 77 and that was as a key punch operator. So I was probably a key punch operator for about three years or so. Probably a year or so into that period is when we started getting electronic terminals, instead of key punching. So, sometimes people would come in, professors or graduate students would come in with a paper that they wanted put into the computer. So that would be on the terminal rather than a key punch. And that's sort of a transition, technology transition period right there. People were still bringing things to the computing center to be input into the computer. I don't think that lasted more than a couple years, maybe a year or so before they started putting terminals in, what used to be key punch rooms for students and graduate students. The key punch office eventually got terminated. There was not enough demand for it, so they needed to find space for four ladies to work. And that's when I entered computer operations. And we all sort of went grudgingly. But I think all of us ended up thinking it was probably one of the best jobs we've ever had. So there are four teams, so you would always be working a week, take a day off work another week, Take a day off work the final week and you'd have a long break like a four or five-day break. So it was pretty good. But your team was absolutely your social group. And so you became very close knit. It was it was a good job and we were very proud of our jobs. That was that was I think the biggest thing because we were in there pretty much running the university's computers.