I left biology, I think in 89. I'd been there about nine years. I went to the Center for the Study of Science and Society. During the budget cuts, they took all the humanities departments, they combined them all into one thing called Center for Interdisciplinary Studies, and they put us all in Lane Hall. So I was working, I went from Derring Hall up to Price House, which is now gone. That's where ICTAS sits now. And so we were in Lane Hall. And then like a year later, the College of Science had to move out of Derring and Williams, because Williams was getting renovated. They put that triple wide on the tennis court up there behind Major Williams. And it was supposed to have been there for six months. It was there for 16 years. Until the Corps finally pushed enough leverage to finally get us moved, and we went to the North End Center. So I was there in the center, and when we became a center like that, the staff really brought this together by specializing in what we did. I gave up my bookkeeping, I gave up my HR. I think I gave up the graduate program part and I took on the technical support of looking after the computers. I ran the web server, I ran the Meeting Maker server, I did the tape backups. In that job, I probably I was like an executive secretary, still in my title. And then in 1997, took the job in the dean's office. They were wanting someone to work with spreadsheets, looking up data, doing web support. And so when I was there, I probably started as a program support technician, and then later I was moved into like a media relations specialist because I ran the web server. Okay. And I helped, you know, with some of the stuff that they printed out. And then as I was there, we shared someone with Major Williams for IT support. We had someone else part time, but over the next few years I ended up taking on all of that and I just took care of the whole deans office. And when I took on more at work and we went from a Mac server to running a Windows server, I was turned, my position was turned into IT specialist then, and my title became office technology coordinator, which was sort of a encompassing thing.