We still think of the university as very siloed. But I mean,  starting with the faculty development program. That was our window on this. There was almost this enforced interdisciplinary collaboration that began to develop that I think sort of dominates, determines who the good strong universities are versus the weak ones is the degree to which you have good interdisciplinary collaboration and communications. And I believe the technology to a large extent has made that possible. The other thing is the extent to which you  collaborate and interact with and get ideas. I still am active professionally in a couple of arenas. And I interact with people all over the world. And I mean, as easily as it would be 30 years ago, me sitting down with with Mike Williams, or Brenda van Gelder and sort of bs-ing some idea and what we ought to do. The fact that we have access and easier ability to collaborate with and work and learn from and get ideas from other people all over the world. Is probably the big, the biggest single change. Things are changing at such a rapid rate. Sometimes you feel like if you aren't reading, studying on a daily basis, even in a couple of narrow fields that I work in, you get out of date very quickly. Having that balance between doing your work and staying up with the changing environment is a big piece of it too.