Gorsline's model for us, it was an inclusive type stuff. I mean, he was the department head, but he and his wife, for me, she's a second mom They took us in when we were broke. They fed us. We learned from them that this payback, you pay it forward. We learned that from them. And we knew the conflict that they had with central computing and all that type of stuff. But when it came down to it, they'd say "let's just get it done." And I think that was something that really you know has put us up in the forefront of a lot of stuff. I mean, yes, you know, some of these guys have billion dollar endowments and all that, but they're more "what's in it for me or my department?" It's not "what's in it for the community?" And I think that's a big difference that's helped. And you know from a work standpoint, there's no way that we could have done that without, you know, Vinod, Mike Williams, Steve Chapman, Erv, you know all of the former directors of the computing center. You know, they may not have known at the time that they were doing that, but the fact that they gave us free reign to do this type of stuff, and then we could come back and say, "hey, we're doing this and this looks to work." And then they embraced it, Rather than say, "no, that's not what our mission is."