It was small.  We had I think 30 students the first class  and then slowly sort of ramped up a small part of the department at the time. Now it's about half the department of what's one of the larger departments in engineering at the university. My first class was sort of the intro Computer Engineering class with literally everything thrown in, 150 students in Whittemore auditorium. I taught microprocessors, taught networking, and those are classes still around today, but, you know, obviously different content, but the general theme is still the same. We had labs, we built stuff. The first computer on my desk was one of the IBM luggables. We did not have Ethernet, didn't have WiFi, but we had a serial, sort of, data connection that tied you back to the IBM 370 mainframe. So that was, you know, email was on VTVM1 which was the IBM mainframe. We were on BITNET at the time, so we could do email but in very, sort of, convoluted, unreliable ways. You had to know part of the path. So if you were trying to send something to somebody at the University of Minnesota, you might have to know like, well, from here it goes to, and I'm just making this up, it goes to University of Illinois, and then from there it goes to Minnesota. So actually in my like at I have to have like this string of things and some networks like had multiple hosts, but you had to know had to go to that network and then that network. Still did a lot of fax.  You still papers, you still sent in, you know, overnight FedEx if you were running late. Proposals you still did on paper and sent them in. The NSF had these big closets for like proposals would come in and they would gather up until they got reviewed.