You know, Governor McAuliffe, he was like all over cybersecurity, right? He really recognized that as an important need for the state, also an opportunity for the state in terms of economics. He had a commission that went around held various meetings. We actually hosted one of those here at The Inn. One of the commission recommendations, you know, at a very high level, was to create, I forget the exact wording, but, you know, an educational cyber range to help with education for Virginia. And that became like a very short [laughs] three or four sentences in legislation with budget behind it, but without a lot of specificity in terms of what it was or how it was to be done. And Karen got tasked with, okay, make this happen. And Scot Ransbottom and I were actually in Richmond meeting with Nelson Moe, who just had become state CIO. But Karen asked what do you know about cyber ranges? And Scot and I both said, well, we don't know much but we know somebody. And that was a guy named Joe Adams who did, he was an Army officer, did his Ph.D. here, went off and did Army things. Retired from the Army, and he ran the Michigan Cyber Range for the Merit Network. We connected Karen with Joe, and Joe did some consulting on helping to define what it was. Then as we started, as we were tasked with doing it, we got him engaged in terms of, you know, as a consultant as well. I tell people we learned from the Michigan mistake. So Michigan, and Michigan's is run by the Merit Network which is kind of their MARIA, except it's like has employees a big organization and everything, and they do more than MARIA I guess too. But it's their statewide research and education network. But they built a physical bricks and mortar cyber range if you will. So they had racks. Joe would always be talking about how he was constantly out marketing because he was paying for those, he had to refresh those racks. At some point those machines and you know, whether he's using them or not, they're depreciating. So we decided that cloud was the way to go. So we made a very different technology decision than Michigan had made. But we certainly learned about kinds of services, approaches, different formats and everything.